can't imagine erap being there with you or for you...
yes people voted for him as being predicted by the authentic surveys and then he has this claim of accomplishments or achievements as they call it and linked it here :)) but can you imagine also erap as being sentenced by the law? it was not gloria who ousted him nor the elites or your so called sham people power it is about sovereignty it's about right and wrong it's about principle it'a all about gordon or bayani as you claim it to be... simple as that. and that's power of, for, by the people... only distorted by the law of gloria/senate/congress/ombudsman/judiciary/comelec etc. nowadays. the kind of institutions that we have NOW.
in japan it'll be a great honor if they simply pierce themselves with a samurai!
lol.... (joke)
maybe it's just for the sake of argument, but the eraption is undebatable in principles of fundamental truth...
really i can't imagine again lol!!!
sorry po i'm really surprised :))
happy new year... :) peace
jong
ps.
but yes of course he represented the masa
yet it was all shame as we all know...
i'm not against erap, just for the truth (not yours nor mine)
let's just forget him he is now the history and symbol of distortions,
a nightmare... i'm sorry again.
but in the end we have a great hope in uniting these peoples
waiting for 2012, you know... the alignments of marcos-aquino-erap-gloria-gordon-bayani-villar-clans-dynasties-warlords-etc-etc.
...
maybe this bandwagon of how unintelligent to run the country then wait for the accomplishments of this so called achievers... still i can't buy them :)) our country is neither gapo, marikina or mandaluyong. i've (personally) followed their tracks and they've already showed trapo...
i'll just buy the alignments and someone can do that.
cheers po :)
........
i think it's unfair to say that we're voting because of popularity or
> sentimentalism for any candidates and not intelligent or wise enough to
> choose which is which without bias or prejudice... that is suspicious
> enough of not being ofw. you like it not authentic surveys are scientific,
> people voted not because of the surveys... but the good thing now is that
> voters have learned their mistakes. can you imagine erap??? lol :))
>
> jong
> :)
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Gerry,
>
> I agree with everything you said about Erap. Good or bad, he was the
> people's choice, he should have been given the chance to complete his
> term, or for the impeachment proceedings to reach its conclusion,
> whichever should have come first. Kaya lang, pinatalsik kaagad, e.
> Umimbento pa sila ng "Constructive Resignation" only to justify Aling
> Gloria's succession to the throne.
>
> The only point I am inclined to disagree with, is that the blame for
> Erap's ouster seemed to point exclusively on the "oligarchs" and their
> representatives who massed at EDSA in 2001. I used to harbor the same
> thought and view EDSA Dos as People Power abused. That was until I
> chanced upon an interview done by the late Nick Joaquin on Mike Arroyo. My
> take on Mike Arroyo's pronouncements is that the EDSA crowd was used only
> as a smokescreen while he and his cohorts were in the process of launching
> a military takeover. EDSA Dos, isn't exactly a People Power Revolt- it
> is nothing short of a coup d' etat.
>
>
http://politicaljunkie.blogspot.com/2006/02/news-flash-military-coup-topples.htm\
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>
> Mel Viado
> Training Manager
> McDonald's Kuwait
> +965 99834288
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>
>
>
> From:
> Q8PinoyIT
> To:
> KuwaitPinoy@yahoogroups.com
> Date:
> 12/27/2009 10:29 AM
> Subject:
> [KP] "Can you imagine Erap?"
>
>
>
>
>
> Jong, hi!
>
> Merry Christmas and Good Morning!
>
> What do you mean by saying "Can you imagine Erap?".
>
> Erap was elected by the majority of the people and I can assure you
> without resorting to election cheating, and yet, he was unconstitutionally
> removed from the office by the oligarchy. It was a coup d'etat
> orchestrated by the mighty and wealthy people of our country. His
> leadership style might be that of a "sanggano" but that should not be
> taken against him because the people who voted him like it that way. I
> didn't vote for him, but the majority did, so I could have waited for the
> following election, but the ruling elite couldn't wait that long. So they
> propped up GMA as their front act, while the real power is behind her,
> that even she herself couldn't control as a president...
>
> If you compare Erap's accomplishments as a president for 2.5 years to
> GMA's 9 years, and the amount of government money embezzled, you would be
> surprised that Erap is the lesser of two evils...
>
> Like Gordon, Erap is also an experienced government executive as a mayor
> of San Juan, Vice-President to FVR, and President, and as a legislator he
> too was a senator who sponsored bills that passed into law, such as the
> "The Preservation of the Carabao" (Republic Act no. 7307) - one of the
> benefits farmers got from this law is the upgrading of the Philippine
> native "kalabaw" from producing 3 liters of milk to 20 liters per day, and
> "The Construction of Irrigation Projects" (Republic Act no. 6978). He too
> was a co-sponsor and a strong proponent of the non-extension of the lease
> of Subic Bay U. S. Naval Base.
>
> If Erap was not removed from office perhaps the Ampatuan's massacre
> couldn't have happened and there might be already peace in Mindanao, and
> perhaps by now, the country is already exporting rice once again, and not
> as the current biggest rice-importing country...
>
> Here's to know more about Erap:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Estrada
>
> Best Regards,
> Gerry Brioso
> Secrets of the most blissful couples
> http://bit.ly/3zAQws
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peace...
gloria had all her achievements and look at her now?
erap had all his achievements and look at him now
chiz had all his achievements and look at him now
villar had all his achievements and look...
gordon and bayani had all theirs too...
and so on and so on...
noynoy?
peace
jong
......
can you imagine erap?
can you imagine gloria?
hope it'll not come, can you imagine gordon? lol
because that's what they called achievers... dictators...
the paradox of pro poor? the house of sham getting rich!
then look what they're favoring... compromising.
a bad sign already :(
"when i am weak then i am strong" can we believe on this or we'll just go to
relativism, secularism then look at our ecology especially the ecology of man..
as been said we're in the abysmal darkness at least we can light our own candles
to hope for the goodness. for me this is our own revolution to evolve for
holiness as the ultimate purpose of our existence... divine connections,
supernatural tasks, great miracles, answered prayers and the conviction of
receive more love and give more love. experience more joy, greater generosity,
dreams fulfilled... have a super-blessed year! cheers & just laugh out loud
LOL... :)) jong .prayers
.......
Hacienda Luisita: Should be Controlled by the Farmers/Tenants
i think your argument is misleading...
anyway we have our own biases regarding our 'manok' LOL :))
but i don't buy it that noy is only a sentimental values.. or products of what
your prejudice expressed.. track records are not enough to become a winnable
candidates as we always said it is a combination of moral & intellectual values
that we all know, many lack of it even gordon, my argument was that gloria had
all the best track records of the world as we can said hundred times but look at
her. you can even compare her to erap or even villar but to noy to them you'll
be questioned they're way apart from transcedental point of view.. noy could be
a transcedental combination of cory and ninoy that's the biggest point he had
for all the candidates and that's my own argument too... gordon had the past and
noy had the past too was it only tracking the actions? or was it all about
public morality... is this misleading??? :)) cheers jong
........
Personally I do not want a state within a state. Therefore the right candidate is Erap and we MUST forget about his infidelity because ALL are siners.
wow soul twister? LOL!
what about the community sin of plunder and using the poor and the sinner as if he was poor and saint that only ignorants or cowards as erap can't comprehend even until now?! :))))
just reminders in creation, saw it was 'good'... there was no sin. only because of erap came sinners... oops sorry again the mind twist!!! or soul? lol ;0
......
Ok, you don't like Erap but many still like him. That's the truth.
hahahhahahahaha
and that's a pity or simply twisted truth
what about the truth of lies and manipulations founded by justice beyond reasons and twisted by gloria to confuse the ever confused erap's masa? that is slavery!
are we going to ignore them even they're brighter as the lamp light? LOL... or be cowards as him?? just asking ;) peace :)))
........
If you are a true Christian then you should know that the Scripture says,
"Everybody is a sinner and those who say they are not, they are liars."
come on that's too literal... LOL :))
try to it in contexts not pretext
then we'll know better the texts you're quoting... peace and just smile :))
cheers ;)
we all know erap is a liar
............
Ros,
Please don't give up, don't say that!
We can forgive infidelity of a husband or wife, and God can forgive sinners.Â
But please let us look for a better choice other than Erap, who has been
convicted of plunder and corruption, albeit forgiven by his benefactor.
A plea,
yes he's giving up, was it faint.of.heart. just asking :))
can you think for a fact that we'll be ruled (again?) by a chief
who cannot identify between good and bad between right or wrong or even a law?
or honestly between falsehood or truth. then look at the country 20 or forever
years now... that's a social sin against the spirit? maybe that's the reason why
we have forum here to view and confront the facts and reasons in erap's view...
LOL!! ok let's say gloria or villar.. ngee!... then maybe then we'll be
hopeless. and be considered as a country without destiny? or simply we're a
chicken taktaktalaookk... :))) sorry po for the animal advocates..
erap cannot even face an inch of a truth, that is total invertebrate!!! . sigh
;(
............
come on where is light here? LOL
peping is cory? farmers being duped?
that's misleading n unfair..... :))
kamag-anak? those were statements of marcos
doy was proven trapo too
their family (aquino) cory cojuangco
avoiding hacienda and give to farmers?
again please show us your truth... ;)
........................
exactly it is the state's proponents :) it's public morality
simple quest..
are you saying that the elites are the kind of cory's sentimental sainthood that
is not catholic that you know now??? truth, then tell me.. LOL. or was it just
your own complex prejudices?? just asking.
i can't imagine cory's doing injustice to farmers!! then again show us your
truth :(
//////////////
'saint' of democracy
what did cory advocate for our country to be considered as such?..
it's your own bias that make us blind to recognize them. look all the leaders
and look at her? then for heaven's sake let our leaders be the kind of example
that she expressed! if not then let the people's values decide! or be the
country that we are now! remember she was surrounded by institutions that was
beyond redemptions even until now!. hope that this election will be her legacy
that will heal us all :)) then it'll keep us growing or......... so this is
democracy -- cheers jong :) ps.. hacienda luisita is cujuangco it is not cory,
how did you know that she did nothing? maybe in legal terms but in moral terms
there's the difference ;)
....................
paradox of inconsistency...
If you take away freedom,
you take away dignity.
Yet freedom cannot be absolute,
since man is not himself God,
but the image of God, God’s creation. (all sinners?)
The protection of creation is not principally
a response to an aesthetic need, (subok lang?)
but much more to a moral need, (chicken erap?)
in as much as nature expresses
a plan of love and truth
which is prior to us
and which comes from God.
Faith is an insult
to the scientifically-data-based
spirit of our day.
Hope is an insult
to the desperately-communicating
tell me-who I am
cell-phoney world.
Love is an insult
to our strip-me
and leave-me
half dead, society.
goodbye :))
thanx anyway for the invitations
and of course 4 the challenges here
wish we'll have a great independence day!!!
if we'll be free as erap and gloria or even gordon.
my last boring-post-pretext-insulting-inconsistency-misunderstood-LOL ;) context
anonymous (daw;)
again thanx to the marines
(did i say chicken to them or the likes of erap?)
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